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Satvatove embodies years of therapy in a few days. Sometimes people going to conventional psychiatrists have bad experiences, but this does not condemn the entire profession.

Similarly, just because some people have had a bad experience with Satvatove, this does not mean that for many, it is not a valuable experience.

I did nine days of Satvatove and would recommend it. My complaint is with people who cannot admit that others had a good experience with a seminar, a workship, a doctrine or philosophy, a church, etc.

Also I would like to know why the Baptist church or Catholic church are not 'cults.' Come on now.

Reason of review: Good quality.

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Guest

I've had it up to here with Satvatove cult apologists, whose job it is to come onto customer advocacy forums "just to offer an alternative perspective", and in the process gaslight and dismiss the experiences of other seminar participants. They'll tell you it's your own fault if you get psychologically damaged, because it's in the disclaimers, or it's "not for everybody".

Guest

I can't believe this scientology-derived whack-a-doodle cult is still in business. Anything they "offer" or pretend to make "possible," believe me, you will reap the opposite.

Your relationships will stink, your friends will flee when they see you coming, your "success" will founder, and, guess what their answer is?

You need more and more Satvatove. I am appalled that they are still fooling people with their nonsense.

Guest

As a veteran of Satvatove, Iโ€™m not shocked to hear about how bad Lifespring actually was. Also, what I know that I heard in the Good Cult podcast is accurate.

Guest

Due to David and Marie's questionable motives; due to their limited competence; and due to the deeply-flawed Lifespring script that they stick to religiously, it is so easy to get overwhelmed with shame, guilt and pain during the Satvatove seminar. But when you stand up to David and Marie and permit yourself to see them as the monsters that they are, you begin to truly connect with your qualities of authenticity, compassion, courage...which are qualities of a spiritual soul...and the pain fades away and a true sense of peace and love takes over.

To stand up against David, Marie and Satvatove is to take a stand for yourself. So I will always be grateful to this website for helping me understand this, helping me become conscious and connect with myself and ultimately with others through courage and authenticity.

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The Advanced Seminar is really life-crippling. David you are a monster.

Itโ€™s an integral journey through a labyrinth of lies and coercion. I never expected them to be so unethical, like they have no soul. You can not avoid avoid being negatively affected by David and Marie's personal issues in this course. They work hard to trick and disable the mind.

Itโ€™s one of the worst methods I ever experienced. I experienced many educations in self-experience, many workshops, seminars, therapies etc โ€“ but Satvatove is hands down the worst.

Guest

I don't find David and Marie admirable as people. Adult humans generally dislike admitting they feel powerless and degraded. Rather than admit to this, we try to impose a noble meaning on the situation or people treating us badly and overloading our adrenal glands.

Guest
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Some people who don't know any better might say that Satvatove sounds like Cognitive Therapy. That is like saying a monkey and a mountain are the same as they both stick out of the ground.

Cognitive Therapy examines thoughts-cognitions, but in a very balanced and careful way. One of the things one does is look for cognitive distortions, and work to modify them.

Whereas Satvatove does the opposite. It tries to stuff your mind full of distortions, confusion, and much worse.

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I regret having participated in this seminar as David and Marie are badly intentioned. Without their poisonous presence, the seminar may have been a bit better.

I feel blessed and thankful for learning about Lifespring via this website, and thus beginning to pull the noxious Satvatove weeds from my the garden of my heart. It's clear that David and all the staff members gave 108% of their dedication to their own needs and desires, rather than wanting to offer something of value to the group of seminar participants.

Guest

It is Lifespring 2.0. They will push you to work for free for them and recruit.

If you donโ€™t then it isnโ€™t them, itโ€™s you.

Everything good will be framed as because of their program and everything bad is because you arenโ€™t committed or some other bs. Make no mistake it is brainwashing and gas-lighting fine-tuned.

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"If you love what you do, you'll never have to work". David and Marie clearly love scamming people and having inappropriate power over them.

Guest

I witnessed public humiliation from the seminar facilitators during both the Basic and Advanced Satvatove courses, of anyone who dared to speak out against anything that happened in that hotel conference room. And I feel bad that social pressure meant that most of us did not rise up against what was often bullying of people who were simply stating that was going on in the room was wrong.

Guest

When you experience a memory of an episode of your life, you are recalling an episodic memory. But itโ€™s possible to confuse an episodic memory with imagination.

When a Satvatove promoter combines imagination with the memory of an actual seminar experience this is called confabulation. Without having any conscious intention to misrepresent the facts, a Satvatove promoter may confabulate by recalling a memory that has been distorted through mental confusion. A confabulation is an imaginary memory that is believed to be real.

To be fully mentally lucid you need to be able to discern the difference between true episodic memory and confabulation. Mental lucidity is essential.

Guest

The Pissed Consumer website is a blessing for which I am profoundly grateful.

Guest

Satvatove's sales techniques may seem slimy, but they are less slimy than the Lifespring techniques on which Satvatove is based. Lifespring's John Hanley was the โ€œField Directorโ€ for Mind Dynamics.

He was very, very focused on sales (and therefore on money). This was one of the things that made Lifespring successful, but it also made it confrontational. In fact, Alexander Everett remarked that Hanley was so focused on money that he would fire his own brother if he didnโ€™t produce. Alexander said, "in fact, he did fire his own brother!" I donโ€™t think Hanley designed the exercises, although I believe he had a hand in that as time went on.

As others have said, Lifespring got the original course from Mind Dynamics. And, Iโ€™m sure Mind Dynamics got its material from many sources. Asked if Everett minded Lifespring taking the material, he claimed he didnโ€™t.

He said that he could invent the material faster than anyone could steal it. I believe him.

Guest

Satvatove is based on Lifespring. For perspective, Iโ€™m going to tell you a bit more of what I know about the origins of Lifespring.

Iโ€™m going to give you the inside scoop. Before Lifespring, there was Mind Dynamics. Mind Dynamics was founded in 1968 by Alexander Everett, who started (with others) the human potential movement. Everett used concepts developed by Josรฉ Silva and Edgar Cayce.

He pulled in techniques from theosophy and other esoteric practices to develop a course primarily for businessmen. He hired a number of trainers who went on to found the human potential organizations of the Eighties. Wikipedia lists several in its article on Everett, but important people include Werner Erhard (founder of est), John Hanley (founder of Lifespring), and Stewart Emery (founder of Actualizations). According to Everett (as told in one of his Inward Bound courses), the name โ€œLifespringโ€ was the title of the newsletter for Mind Dynamics.

Everett says that the first Lifespring course was the Mind Dynamics training.

Hanley took the course materials and stamped โ€œLifespringโ€ on them. This was in 1974, shortly after Mind Dynamics closed down in 1973.

Guest

Satvatove mistakes the material for the spiritual. Is there a Sanskrit term for people who do that?

Guest

Satvatove is a good con.

Guest

NEVER justify Satvatove's behavior: Never assume their intentions and never excuse their behavior on your own. DO NOT DO THIS TO YOURSELF. Sometimes you think you know Satvatove well enough, but in reality you can never know their true intentions.

Guest

To the people who posted positive reviews of Satvatove...thank you for having the courage to share the story that you tell yourselves.

Guest

Satvatove is the reincarnation of an older therapy model that was called Lifespring. My concern is in regards to the effects of their methodology on people's psychological well being.

I am concerned that Satvatove may potentially be providing intensive psychological treatments without adequate oversight. In my opinion, based off of my personal experience, the training can be detrimental to a lot of people. I'm curious if there have been personal liability lawsuits against them, or any other legal cases that show that they are potentially dangerous. My understanding is that there is a way to look up past cases that a company has been involved in.

I personally was completely unaware of any risks before attending the Satvatove courses.

The pre-screening process involved filling out a form. What I witnessed in the seminar leads me to believe that admission of mental health problems would not result in being removed from the training, nor preclude someone from attending.

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